Conversation with Professor N.G Rajurkar
Author of the book “Nehru: Utopian or a Statesmanâ€
The beautiful city of Hyderabad, India has been a melting point of Hindu and Muslim cultures for several centuries. Seven generations of the Asif Jahi dynasty rulers established and ran the independent Deccan state that pre-dominantly included a large Hindu population speaking South Indian languages such as Telugu and Kannada. Soon after India gained independence in 1947, all princely states were invited to join the Republic. The seventh Nizam was reluctant to do so; but in 1948, after the Police Action, his state was finally merged into the Indian Union.
It was in such times that Professor Emeritus of Political Science at Osmania University, Dr. N. G. Rajurkar (father of well-known Boston based singer-actress Smt. Jayashree Shahane) grew up in Hyderabad and studied at the Nizam College and Law College. Out of a keen interest he developed for studying the Indian National movement, he followed the work of national leaders such as Mahatma Gandhi and Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru at close quarters and ended up authoring no less than 15 books in English and his native language, Marathi. Also proficient in the Urdu language, Prof. Rajurkar recites and explains Urdu sher (poetic couplets) with great flair and sensitivity. The prolific author and gifted orator who retired as an academic( the head of the Department of Political Science at Osmania University, Hyderabad) taught graduate and post-graduate students for more than three decades. Frequently invited to give lectures on Gandhi and Pandit Nehru, he has had the distinction of presenting 4 lectures in front of leaders at the Indian Parliament. His lecture in 2006 on Mahatma Gandhi at the Johnson and Wales University, Rhode Island was also very well received.
It is not often that one comes across a person who is both an intellectual who can examine and analyze political situations like a scientist and also appreciate poetry. Professor Rajurkar recently authored a book on Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru titled “Nehru: Utopian or a Statesmanâ€. Released at Nehru Center in Mumbai on November 14, 2014, the 150 page book published by New Delhi based Pentagon publishers profiles Pandit Nehru, the powerful ex-Prime Minister of India and examines his ideas on Nationalism, Democracy and Socialism.
Shuchita Rao spoke to Professor Emeritus N.G. Rajurkar about his recently published book and his views on what goes into making a good writer and orator.
Q. What prompted you to take up the topic of Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru as the subject for your recently published book, “Nehru: Utopian or a Statesman�
A. My Ph.d thesis was on Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru who was a great statesman and a person endowed with vision. He also has the distinction of being India’s longest serving Prime Minister thus far. I had been keeping track of Pandit Nehru and his work for a very long time. I also met him in person twice in New Delhi during the process of conducting my research and was greatly impressed and touched by the interaction. I studied his personality and the controversies that surrounded him, got into the details and examined his political decisions in an unbiased manner. I felt that there was a need to understand the rationale behind some of the decisions he took as a leader of the Indian sub-continent and to bring forth that analysis to readers. That was the idea behind the book.
Q. How have readers received your book ?
A. The book has travelled to many parts of the world and I have received positive feedback from many people who have written to me. As part of the book release ceremony at Nehru Center in Mumbai in November 2014, Shri Sudheendra Kulkarni, a well known journalist conducted an interview with me in front of an invited audience. It was a rewarding interaction and several people asked questions during the open Q&A session. When people compliment me about the book, I feel that the efforts that I put into writing the book have not gone in vain.
Q. What do critics of Pandit Nehru have to say about the book?
A. The critics say that Pandit Nehru went wrong in his policy towards China and Kashmir. I have examined these controversies in my book. Nehru was a seasoned politician and not a naïve man and he had his own reasons for the policies that he pursued. To one gentleman who was criticizing Pandit Nehru, I posed three simple questions:
1. Would you say that Pandit Nehru possessed at least as much intelligence as you and I posses?
2. Would you say that Pandit Nehru cared about India or was he indifferent to the country and its welfare?
3. Pandit Nehru was in Indian politics for almost 5 decades. Can anyone with that much of political experience fail to have grasp over political realities?
The gentleman had no answers to my queries.
In my experience, people have a tendency to make their prejudices interfere with assessment of situations. They make judgments quickly without spending enough time on analyzing the circumstances in which he had to take those decisions. I have attempted to take into account the difficulties Panditji faced when he took certain decisions and have tried to understand the reasons behind the policies he adopted in solving delicate problems pertaining to India. One needs to transplant oneself mentally to the period in which those decisions were taken.
Q. What in your opinion were the most admirable traits of Pandit Nehru?
A. Pandit Nehru had great physical and moral courage. Once, in 1947 when he came to know that some unsocial elements were proposing to attack the Jamia Millia Islamia university, he rode in a taxi unescorted by security personnel through riot-ridden areas and told the then Vice-Chancellor of the university -Dr. Zakir Hussain “I wanted to make sure you are safe. I will spend the night with you – let me see who attacks the University.†To give an instance of moral courage, Panditji never blindly copied Gandhiji in spite of being named as his political successor by the Mahatma himself. He dressed in a manner that he liked and had the courage to openly disagree with some of Gandhiji’s views.
Pandit Nehru was also extremely sensitive to the political situations of countries outside of India. When a civil war was taking place in Spain in 1937 it affected him deeply. He once called the editor of the Bombay Chronicle, at 2AM to inquire about the latest situation in Spain. When the reply was “Panditji, the democrats seem to be winningâ€, he replied “Thank GOD! I can sleep now.†He wrote in his autobiography “The Spanish tragedy has come to me as a personal sorrow†when the democrats in Spain were defeated in the political struggle. An Urdu couplet comes to my mind when I think of his sensitivity “Khanjar chaley kisi pe, tadapte hain hum Ameer, Saare jahaan ka dard humaarey jigar mein haiâ€.
Q. Would you say that the ability to write is a natural gift? In the making of an author how much is nature and how much is nurture?
A. Some people come into the world with a natural flair for things – take language for instance. They learn languages more quickly than others. Since my schooldays I had a great desire to choose appropriate words to convey my ideas. I participated in debates when 3 to 5 minutes were given to present one’s ideas. I spent a lot of time on choosing the relevant points and tried to present them with utmost clarity so that I may carry conviction with the listeners. That being said, a lot of hard work must go into developing the natural talent. The English poet Thomas Gray wrote his poem ‘Elegy written in a church courtyard’ 75 times and was satisfied with only the 75th version. Each of those specimens has been preserved and displayed in the British Museum library.
Q. You are a reputed speaker, could you tell us about some orators who influenced you?
A. The Head of the department of Political Science, Osmania University, Prof. P. V Rajagopal was a brilliant orator. His command on the English language was incredible and his presentation left little to be desired. His style suited both small as well as large gatherings. The great statesman Sarvepalli Radhakrishnan had a style that suited large gatherings and important occasions. Sir C.P Ramaswamy Iyer was another great orator. Pandit Nehru had a captivating style as well. He knew the right thing to say and spoke from his heart. For instance, in June 1948, during the farewell function of Lord Mountbatten, Nehru touched the hearts of the listeners by saying something which he alone could have said. Referring to the earlier eight months which were full of turmoil, Nehru said “In fact, I wonder as to why the people of India put up with my government after all that has happened in the country during the last eight months. I am not sure that I would have put up with my government. We are small people and we were faced with gigantic problems and all that I can say with great humility is that we tried to meet those challenges to the best of our capacityâ€. He captured the mood of the people and spoke words that were very appropriate for the occasion. There was a time when people told me that my oration reminded them of Pandit Nehru’s style of speaking. With considerable effort I changed my style as each person has to choose a style that suits his personality.
Q. How do you feel now that the book has been published? What is your newest project?
A. I feel very happy. I have been a lifelong student of Nehru and Gandhi. I have written about leaders such as Lokmanya Tilak, Dadabhai Naoroji, Gopal Krishna Gokhale and others and while doing so, I have tried my utmost to put their ideas and policies in perspective. Presently, I am working on a book in Marathi about leading Urdu poets as I feel that Marathi speaking people are very keen to understand the nuances of Urdu poetry.
Q. Why not publish the book in English for the benefit of a wider audience?
A. I will certainly give that a serious thought.